NC: As you probably know, in the United Kingdom right now, there are moves to remove people’s access to RT, which is another television outlet.

Chomsky could have employed his own obscurity in the US as a prime example of his thesis, don’t you reckon? In fact, they initiated the effort. That very same Security Council resolution calls on “all parties,” meaning the US and Britain, to move towards establishing a nuclear weapons–free zone in the region. That has never happened in American political history. That ought to make people laugh hysterically. But try to find a report in the mainstream press.

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I happened to be overseas when the election took place, and I watched BBC for several days. We brought this to the attention to some civil libertarians at the American Civil Liberties Union. One, the attack on the media, [the other] the documentary basis.

You can criticize him for perhaps not encouraging your search for 9/11 truth or (terrorist) JFK’s killers, but his failure, or perceived (by some) failure, to do the right thing here is not an example of gatekeeping. Subscribe to the Monthly Review e-newsletter (max of 1-3 per month).

There were very few reviews of the book, but there was one critical discussion that I wrote about later, by Nicholas Lehmann [New Republic,  1/9/89], a well-known scholar of journalism, who wrote a review in which he disparaged it, saying, “This doesn’t mean anything.”, For example, he discussed the chapter comparing the assassinations of a hundred religious martyrs in Central America, including an archbishop, American nuns and leading Latin American intellectuals—where there was virtually no coverage—with the coverage of the assassination of one Polish priest, where the assassins were immediately apprehended, tried, sentenced to jail—where there was vast reportage. (Then you look at Eli Pariser’s associates and the hair on your arm stands up.) Serious coverage is much harder to find here. FAIR is the national progressive media watchdog group, challenging corporate media bias, spin and misinformation. Furthermore, it was magnified by the fact that the professional, mainstream media pretended he did not exist, but the journalists were reading his stuff all the time and cannibalizing it.

Anyone who speaks up about what is happening to our children’s health is silences or never interviewed by any msm or alternative media. The more the atrocities increased, the more the arms flowed. It is not government censorship; it is just a corporation deciding to destroy a publisher to prevent them distributing a book. This is really insidious, and it can be used in very dangerous ways, and sooner or later will be, I am sure. Alan MacLeod interviewed Noam Chomsky via Skype on March 13, 2018, for MacLeod’s new book Propaganda in the Information Age: Still Manufacturing Consent. So there is no state censorship, it is just Counterrevolutionary Violence business censorship again. So take the last German elections, for example. To not give Eva Bartlett and Vanessa Beeley the credit they deserve for their coverage of Syria speaks volumes. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License.

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Journalism could try to respond to that. A couple of weeks later, I found some mentions in the back pages. But there was a huge attack on our discussion of Cambodia. The more the atrocities increased, the more the arms flowed. Instead of that, and plenty of other things that they are doing, what the media is trying to do is find some Russian interference in the election.

Their ability to collect information and to devise means of controlling what you see and do is very dangerous.

NC: I think the media should cover Syria accurately and seriously, as a number of journalists—Patrick Cockburn, Robert Fisk, Charles Glass, Jonathan Randall—do. Whatever the Russians might have done is not even a toothpick on a mountain compared to that, quite apart from the fact that the U.S. not only intervenes in elections (including in Russia), but overthrows governments.

The US and Britain have a special commitment to this. Who would be threatened?

I’m very disappointed in Noam for buying the hysteria. Let’s go back to the Sanders campaign that I mentioned earlier.

There was a lot of talk about potential Russian interference, that the Russians would undermine the election and so on. It is not the kind of electoral manipulation we like to talk about. They are called the United States and Israel. He also did parts on some of the specific studies, like on the coverage comparison of a hundred religious martyrs in Latin America with one Polish priest. In fact, there is extensive work in mainstream academic political science that demonstrates very convincingly that you can predict the electability, hence largely the votes, of people in Congress on major issues just by looking at their campaign funding. Daniel Ellsberg on the Assange extradition and growing fascism, Competing with Nature: COVID-19 as a capitalist virus, Chavismo and the Left: A conversation with Reinaldo Iturriza (Part II), Toward Delinking: An Alternative Chinese Path Amid the New Cold War, Tracing a Trajectory of Hope in Rural Communities in China, Revisiting Collectivism and Rural Governance in China, Law & Disorder radio: from Michael Tigar & the decline of democracy to the Chicago 7 at Caroline’s Comedy Club, “Through the Lens of Punishment & Dispossession”–Pem Buck studies whiteness in her own family, “The Horne Report” now weekly on Diasporic Music, Ecology after Marx: Green Left reviews Foster’s “The Return of Nature”, North of Oxford looks at “Cuban Health Care: The Ongoing Revolution”, Triple Crisis in the Anthropocene Ocean. This is manipulation on an enormous level!

There is a simple reason. In our [2002] edition of Manufacturing Consent, we expanded it to invented threats to try to control opinion and discussion. But it is a source of news. He also did parts on some of the specific studies, like on the coverage comparison of a hundred religious martyrs in Latin America with one Polish priest. That might help explain how someone like Noam Chomsky could swallow the barrel bomb propaganda about Syria. The product is readers of newspapers, or viewers on television, and the market is advertisers.

He asked to see the book, and when he saw it, he went berserk and ordered them to stop distributing it immediately.


That would be the future of really independent media. AM: It’s now been almost 30 years since its publication, and the media landscape has, in many ways, changed greatly since 1988. If you want to do an article on Chomsky, do one on how he normalizes Israel’s behavior by trotting it out and then offering no real solution – eventually, with real solution offered, it creates a ‘there’s nothing to be done’ attitude and will support Israel’s increasing and more egregious human atrocities; if need be, I’ll write the article but you certainly have the resources to do so. So, if you look at the news on Facebook, it comes straight from the major media. By now, he is by far the most popular political figure in the country, but you hardly see a mention of him anywhere.

You may have read that there are recent studies showing that automobile manufacturers are now so flooded with data from drivers of cars, that they have not yet worked out a way on how to get a business model, to allow advertisers to follow you every moment of your life. They have to prevent any inspection or control of Israel’s nuclear facilities. They have a product that they sell to a market.

The reaction to that was quite interesting. If Dr. Chomsky really cared about the US, he would endorse a Third Party candidate instead the likes of Hillary Clinton, but Noam Chomsky is an Israel-firster and as such supports the Deep State because it supports Israel. One of the Warner executives saw the advertising for the book, and did not like it. The Sanders campaign was the first time in over a century of American political history that a candidate was able to get to where he did.

Let’s say all the claims are true. On social media, you do not find that. The publisher at first did not agree.

There was a huge literature on this, trying to show that we were apologists for Pol Pot.

Who is that a threat to? Is there a way of dealing with that potential threat? the facts were there, but not the framework of discussion. Actually, the election was important, but it was important for quite different reasons that were not reported.

There was a lot of talk about potential Russian interference, that the Russians would undermine the election and so on. NC: Any kind of near-monopoly as these companies are is extremely dangerous. When the US and Britain invaded Iraq, they had to concoct some sort of pretext.

It is very simple: It is a threat to the rogue states that want to rampage in the region without any deterrent.

Right now, what is happening in Eastern Ghouta is a major atrocity. They don’t do their own investigations. Not the Arab states, they have been pressing for it almost forever.

Furthermore, journalism appears to be becoming a less professionalized field, with fewer and fewer full-time staff journalists employed by newspapers and TV, and more freelancers and citizen journalists. But the main thing is the way in which people are individually tracked to monitor the environment in which they live, so as to control them for the benefit of advertisers and business. Their ability to collect information and to devise means of controlling what you see and do is very dangerous. There is a lot to say about that.

Manufacturing consent isn’t by default bad. This was one of our many examples of the way in which “worthy victims” are treated, as compared with “unworthy victims.”.

And it is bringing in many more viewers. In the United States, it is not a problem, because practically nobody has heard of RT. Sanders probably would have been nominated if it had not been for the machinations of the Obama/Clinton party managers. But it does not matter, because this is a world of alternative facts. And Al-Jazeera, for example, had to cancel its efforts to reach an American audience, because practically no station would allow them to appear.

That would be the future of really independent media. The people on what is called the left see the left media, the people on the right see the right media. It was from the United States. AM: It is 30 years since Manufacturing Consent was published. Instead of that, and plenty of other things that they are doing, what the media is trying to do is find some Russian interference in the election. They have nearly perfect compliance and virtually zero vaccine preventable diseases.

The fundamental difference between them was that in one case, you could blame it on an official enemy and there was absolutely nothing to do about it—nobody had a proposal as to how to stop it.


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