You crack me up :D. I am a security instructor in Copenhagen Airport and currently in the proces of putting together an English airport and aviation vocabulary for our employees.

The only surfaces that might have been somewhat like tarmac were service roads for ground equipment. They tell the passengers what they think will get the response they want, even if it means telling white lies and falsehoods. “Tarmac,” however, just needs to quietly go away! As silly as it is I think everyone should be forced to watch ‘Pushing Tin’ as an in-flight movie. The Scotland reference was there purely for supposedly humorous reasons, referencing the “Mac” in “Tarmac”. It’s certainly possible that your acronym was used by someone in the past.

Don’t get me started on improper and superfluous radio phraseology!.

Sometimes they have limited ratings that allow them to sit in the seat only in the cruise (landings are periodically practiced in the sim). Post was not sent - check your email addresses! is there a word that refers collectively to the runways, taxiways, and apron?

I first saw the word Tarmac in an old Aviation glossary, maybe through the AIM of the 1950’s. The captain, however, always has the final authority.

So yeah, I can understand reporters getting confused when they as passengers are getting confusing and contradictory information from the airline employees.

Here is what I sent them: What a ridiculous report on the preparations for today’s Honor Flight.

Thank you so much for putting in the time and effort to better inform your readers!

I never once heard the word tarmac.

The other pilot is the first officer (or F/O) and usually sits in the right seat.

That's definitely not the case—there's a language of lines and indicators that helps pilots time their touch-down at the exact right moment. I am happy to see more people unhappy with that use of tarmac. Airports At an airport, you can see airliners on the runway, taxiway and tarmac.

Although, I do remember an occasion when one of our “directors” who was neither a writer nor a pilot (but was somewhat familiar with aviation in general) came to me to double check on some copy that a reporter/writer/producer had written.

Even the Air and Space Smithsonian magazine makes reference to “tarmac” — in a recent article depicting aircraft parked outside a hangar at the Steven F. Udar-Hazy Center— on what appears to be a concrete apron.

Ryan, thanks for the comment. LOL! Remember: Apron, Taxiway, Runway, Gate. Thanks for reading! I’ve never heard an ATC tell a pilot to ‘contact apron control’, but I do hear them say ‘contact ramp control’ all the time. A tarmac is one of several different things, depending on usage and location.

Take a look at the above CNN story from 2007. > The person in command of the airplane is the captain and usually sits in the left seat of the flight deck. Congress used incorrect terminology, so now the FAA is stuck with it, and so are we.

Lots of deer and sandhill cranes, but definitely no tarmac.

I worked at 4 different airports pwk ord dtw den. But it’s doubtful that it was ever an official designation. Conductor on Shining Time Station. Thank you so much for this article! Other common names are jet ways, gangways, aerobridges and jetties (UK). I’ve been flying for seventy years, been licensed for forty, never been to Tarmac Airport. The word “Tarmac” is not used in professional circles and is meaningless in the aviation world. He currently frustrates air traffic controllers in the US, Asia, and Europe as a Boeing 757 and 767 captain for a package express airline. The Problem: There is no official definition for “tarmac” in aviation. That’s absolutely incredible (in a negative way).

Both pilots are fully qualified to fly the aircraft. Nope.

Delivered to your inbox! David, my previous comment about the Wick airport was not a joke.

I worked at ord den and dtw for over 30 years, I never even once heard anyone working there or flying into there say the word tarmac.

It doesn’t help that the non-aviation paper pushers in US Congress incorrectly used the term “Tarmac Delay” in legislation. I know what tarmac is and so am left wondering that every time I fly out of an Australian airport the airline staff announce various activities (smoking, using mobile phones) are not permitted “on the tarmac”. Those not aviation savvy use the term to describe runways, taxiways, aprons, gates, even parking lots.

I am far too old to change my story now.

Far better materials are readily available to do the job. No one knows what it means, yet many seem comfortable using. G’Day! Tarmac has not been used as an airport surface material for decades. I can’t even make a bad joke without being right. One more point about your cabin crew. Tarmac must be where airplanes taxi!”.

I had been doing various technical jobs behind the scenes over the decades, one of which for the last thirteen years (up until retirement in Sep. of 2017) was the video editing of news stories. I agree that the media should do more research before broadcasting. Thanks for the comment. Everyone might “think” they understand what a tarmac is, but they don’t. AeroSavvy is here to help with a crash course in aviation terminology.

Your comment should eliminate any remaining confusion.

Other acronyms are dubious at best.

It is an improvement on the surface developed in the 1820’s by John Loudon McAdam.

Another term that’s become superfluous is “Roger That” Can you imagine what a controller would say if he heard that as a response! Learn how your comment data is processed. The feature is about a tiny Wisconsin airport with grass runways, taxiways AND apron. The term road metal also is an anachronism and derives from then Roman practice in England of spreading iron ore with the gravel to make a stable road surface.

The runway is for taking-off and landing, the taxiway gives access to the runway, the airport and the tarmac. Thanks for reading!

I uploaded this before, but it never seemed Terminal Area for the Maneuvering of Aircraft o stay. No worries! I don’t want to make it too complicated! And you don’t need to differentiate between “male flight attendant” and “female flight attendant.” Just flight attendant – we’re all aware that both genders have careers as cabin crew members. There is no aviation definition for the term. What if the”Airport” is made of Tarmac? Calling a taxiway “the tarmac” is like calling it “the asphalt” or “the reinforced concrete.” It makes absolutely no sense and causes confusion. As far as I know, that never happened and I really do not understand why that was. for the North America still uses the older term ramp. And then he became Mr. After reading your article, I’ve deleted “tarmac” (which we’d never ude in Danish either)! My personal pet peeve is some FAs, when you get the double-chime indicating the plane is descending through 10,000 feet, make an announcement saying “Ladies and Gentlemen we have been cleared for landing…”. Congrats on 47 years!

. Terminal endmrw0226292104. These are cruise relief pilots used when more than two pilots are needed.

First, there's something calle… I saw your site recommended on code7700.com and it is very interesting. The Apron is the place where airplanes park to board passengers and refuel. As petroleum production increased in the mid 20th century, the by-product of refining process, asphalt became available in huge quantities and largely supplanted the use of tar due to its reduced temperature sensitivity.

It’s called a jet bridge and it’s located on the apron at the gate. “Trans-oceanic flights sometimes carry extra captains or first officers to satisfy legal rest requirements.” Cross-continental also carry extra crew.

Which of the following is a fruit named after a Moroccan seaport. Tarmac, while commonly used as a term to describe where airplanes are parked, is in fact a type of road surface and is the trademark of Tarmac Limited, a British construction company, that produces the “tarmac” used to surface the parking areas of some airports, roadways, parking lots, etc … despite the majority of airport parking areas being paved with concrete.

The pilots are flying, of course! And since there’s no smiley face on your reply (and I don’t have the energy to look it up this morning), I’m trusting that you are not making an equally absurd attempt at humor (or Humour, as they say in Scotland). What made you want to look up tarmac? Well maybe it was asphalt. Just a personal view point. At some airlines, these second officers have one stripe, sometimes leading confused airport staff to ask if they are engineers. I’m so glad you have brought clarity to this issue! You’re 10-50 miles away from the airport at that point! As a passenger, it feels like most pilots try to come down as close to the edge of whatever seems to constitute runway as possible. Airline Terminology,” and you are so, so correct about the media. Their primary duty is to get you safely off a burning, smoke-filled aircraft in the event of an accident. It wasn’t always 100%, but we are humans so that’s to be expected. Trains do rarely if ever go off the tracks and cause death. For 47 years now I’ve been telling people that I met my wife on the tarmac at Kadena AFB in Okinawa when she was a young Navy WAVE on the island for only five minutes.

Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Living in the age of Airplanes – National Geographic, SROV – Service Ready Operational Validation. Actually, it was in an official capacity. Aviation professionals cringe when we hear the word. It takes a long time for the plane to be unhooked from the tug and for the pilots to get clearance to taxi, therefore her “here we go” as the tug was being decoupled was a bit premature…has she never been on a flight?

Judging by the name, I’m assuming it’s somewhere in Scotland? When the guy went crazy and started a fire at Chicago Center, all the reporters rushed to O’Hare to see the fire at ‘the tower’, and then were confused for hours how Chicago was having such ATC problems when there was nothing wrong at the tower. It’s essentially crushed rock mixed with cement then sealed with tar. Enjoy the articles? The jet was actually parked on the apron (CNN was correct that the passengers were miserable for 8 hours). Learn how your comment data is processed. Maneuvering of

It’s confusing when the news media makes statements like: “The pilot made an emergency landing.” Which pilot? “Tarmac.” Merriam-Webster.com Dictionary, Merriam-Webster, https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tarmac.

was hijacked to Libya, Rather said over and over that “Navy diver Steven Stedham’s body was thrown to the tarmac”. If you’re one of the older crowd (or the Fox News tweeter), please don’t refer to your cabin crew as stewardess, steward, stew, air hostess, babe, trolly dolly or cart tart. Yes, but as someone who spent 10 years of my life out there, the term “ramp rat” (for flight line technicians) sounds a lot better that “apron rat” or worse yet, “Tarmac rat”. It’s essentially crushed rock mixed with cement then sealed with tar. The big question is how can it be stopped? “you can get ON the airplane, I’m getting IN the airplane” – George Carlin. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Thanks again! The vast majority of aircraft operating areas are however constructed of concrete, not “tarmac”. So I went to the writer/producer and suggested he may wanna change the copy to read “Control Tower” instead of “NTSB,” which he did. Printed communication (even with smiley emoticons) is always susceptible to misunderstanding and crossed wires. And please… Let’s give the general public a little more credit. The person in command of the airplane is the captain and usually sits in the left seat of the flight deck.

One news report’s use of the word may be (and often is) completely different from another. Hmmmmmmm?

I would be surprised if a municipal airport used a material patented in 1901 for their runway. Views expressed in the examples do not represent the opinion of Merriam-Webster or its editors.


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